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It would be crazy.

^ Because here in the US the whole series is called EarthBound by NoA, not Mother.

Think about it. If they're plan is to release the whole series here, why not start from the beginning? First game on NES for VC first, Then second on SNES for VC, then, 3rd on, DS maybe?

Jamis wrote on Mon, 02 June 2008 03:28

SirVenom wrote on Mon, 02 June 2008 01:28

Nintendo of America recognizes Mother 3 as Earthbound 3

NOA recognizes MOTHER 3? :p Anyway, I was going to say the ESRB site said it was the SNES one, but then I remembered the only system it says is Wii. Hmmm... it could be! That'd be insane.

Plus, bear in mind that Mother 1 isn't even in Japan yet, right?

@Jamis: I think that everyone in customer service is very uninformed. For example, I called about the keyboard functionality on the Wii when it was discovered (that is, it was thrown in an update but removed later). The guy had NO idea what I was talking about, so he kept me on the line while he asked his manager. HE had no idea either. They wouldn't know which one was rated

Although, one of the admins might have better contacts there than we do.

Oh, one more thing... notice that the ESRB rating has no content descriptors... many people seem to think that Mother 2 should have a higher rating than it was given, and this would explain it.

SaturnStorm wrote on Mon, 02 June 2008 13:15

Done and done.

I think you might be onto something, Venom. I don't know if it'll help but how was Super Mario Brothers 2 (Lost levels) rated for VC? What name did that come under? That could very well be key.

Super Mario Brothers 2 returns no results on ESRB.... Hmmm...

Update: I looked it up, it is Super Mario Brothers Bros.: The Lost Levels. No "2".

Now I will try to find out if it was named differently when it was rated.

Update 2: The Wayback Machine on archive.org isn't working right now... drat. I will check later.

By the way, does anyone know when it it was released on the VC?

Ah, yeah sorry. I have been using forums for years, I don't know why I am having trouble here

Back on subject... This could be important for the Mother series as a whole in America if it is the NES version. I am crossing my fingers on this one!

Note to self: No quoting posts directly above. NO double posts period. Natch

Ah, nice. When Archive is back up, I will check before the release date.

PaperSpock wrote on Mon, 02 June 2008 14:06

Would Mother 1 be good for us or not? Could the high degree of difficulty hurt it, and prevent further release?

All in all, though, I think it is easier than other RPGs on the VC, such as Phantasy Star II.

But, it is very possible that if it doesn't sell well we are doomed. That is why we, as a community, should do all we can to promote it.

PaperSpock: Well, since MOTHER is #2 in NP's poll, we might not have to worry so much, but like Venom said, we'll still probably have to promote it like crazy just to be sure it sells. You know, gifting it if you have extra money, telling friends to buy it, passing out fliers at game stores, etc. Although, that goes for whether its MOTHER 1 or MOTHER 2; just do what you can to help the series and it should be fine.

^- gives DCray a cookie

If the game actually is MOTHER rather than EarthBound then it could be said they're going to try building it from the roots and see how things fly. Either that or they want the success of MOTHER, who we haven't been fighting for nearly as hard, to be the base for the release of the other games. If thats the case, then they want this to be unbiased. By unashamedly flagging down everyone and telling them, it could hurt us in the end, since they suddenly don't have an unbiased system again.

If you think about it, people who aren't a fan of the series can go two ways: They can think "Okay what is this game?" and play it, or decide "nah." This is just how things are. But when we're fighting for the game causes beyond the scope of NoA (as in praising it to high heaven all across the net and media), 'nah' becomes "I'm not playing that the fans are weird and force it down my throat" and people who do give it a try will likely do so under our expectations rather than their own, which chances are it won't live up to. This hurts the game, and the likely profit that stems from that. If EarthBound (zero) gets high numbers without our fighting, then Nintendo will see that the numbers aren't forced and will likely release the other games. But if we create bias, it could be more troublesome.

YAY! A tasty cookie!

I agree that we should not try to force the series on people, it'll make everyone hate us and the series. Forcing includes gifting it to people that have already said they don't want it, or even haven't said yet weather or not they do. Also, If I had 2 Wiis, I'd gift it to myself TWICE! That's how insane I am! MWAHAHAHAHA!

Ya, I didn't really like Mother at all, but I LOVE EarthBound. Also, I think it's possible that they rated Mother because when EarthBound first came out because I believe it was called "Earth Bound" on the ERSB site. Strange, isn't it? That's another thing to look into.

This is a high possibility. Something I actually thought about as well. Especially considering that the SNES version of EB is actually Earth Bound on the ESRB site. Either they fixed it (now that the game is actualy EarthBound without the space) or its Mother ...

I personally would love to have Mother on VC. I have been trying to play it on the computer and I just can't get into it. I like the game so far (just got ana) but using the keyboard just makes my fingers hurt. (I know I could get a controller)

I am also an optimist. I know it sounds far fetched, but what if this "big secret" coming out at E3 is EarthBound remade as a wii game as EarthBound 2 or some catchy name to show it was remastered like EarthBound Wii-mastered (ok so not so lame). Possibly then they would put Mother on the VC and call it EarthBound. Release it a week or 2 before hand to get people geared up for the super EB event coming to wii.

Ok so I'm dreaming!

I went ahead and noted the possibility on the Earthbound and Mother 1 articles on Wikipedia. I expect them to be edited (not taken out, improved... my encyclopedic writing isn't very high quality), but I just had to put it in.

gBev: It makes sense in context with how the rest of the topic was going at the time.

Nintendo wouldn't call MOTHER EarthBound zero, simply because that's the fan-name for it. It'll either be EarthBound (which is where this speculation comes in) or Earth Bound, which leads into EarthBound, but the latter case isn't likely because it'll cause too much confusion.

Wait... So, as I understand, three NES EarthBound prototypes currently exist. So... what if NoA doesn't have one anymore? I mean, once the game was officially cancelled, there would be no point to keep any of them. One got out, so why not the other two? If this is true, Nintendo would have to translate the entire game AGAIN. Please prove this wrong. NOW.

I think they keep the ROM, not the cartridges. If they had to make copies from cartridges, they wouldn't produce the games at near the speed they did.

gBev wrote on Wed, 04 June 2008 17:31

Anyway, I really doubt they would put EarthBound Zero before EarthBound. Actually, it's almost impossible. Remember that the EarthBound Zero rom is not a released Nintendo cartriage. It's a never-released prototype. Plus, EarthBound beat EarthBound Zero in the NP VC poll.

It isn't a prototype, actually. The game was - for all intents and purposes - completely finished. As I recall, they even had a manual setup and ready to be printed.. the only thing that stopped its release was marketing. So yes, it is an unreleased game that much is true - but it is a finished game all the same. There is really no reason they couldn't release it now.. in fact, it'd be funny because after all these years they could finally make a profit off of it. (probably not the profit they hoped for back when they were translating it.. but still.)

And Mother 2 beating Mother 1 in the polls really doesn't mean much. It was just that, a poll, nothing more. You can't place a lot of stock in the exact results, even if it is a good indicator of what to expect sometimes. (Plus there is no indication that they can't release both, and it makes a lot more sense to release them in chronological order in that case anyway.)

True, but I like to toss around the possibility

Because there's only so much space for them to put in a name, much like I imagine they have the same problem with Pokemon.